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13 Jan 2010I want to make some observations based on my last couple months of training.
First of all, weightlifting is fun. Fucking Hard, but tons of fun! Although it is about as basic of an idea as could ever be imagined (pick something up and put it overhead, the heaviest thing wins), it can be very complex and fulfilling. As most of you know that have ever attempted a snatch, it is a very complex and technical movement. The margin for error is very small especially at heavier weight. The athleticism need is also right up there with a major league pitcher, professional footballer (soccer or football), or tennis player. Interestingly enough the benefits of weightlifting (snatch and clean and jerk) cover each of these disciplines. To me it seems like a no brainer for people to feel the need to get better at these two movements for the betterment of their sport. I am getting off track a bit, sorry.
More observations:
Little gains make big differences and are a big deal. When i added 3 kgs to my snatch and went from 97 to 100 kg a couple months ago it was a mental victory. Not only did i realize a goal for 2009 but it also forced me to adjust all my numbers. Obviously in training 70% of 97 is different than 70% of 100. All this means is that all my training weights went up and forced me to work harder. I was talking to steve at the american open and as we were pumped about getting PR’s in our lifts, we were a little bummed that training was going to be harder in the future. I guess this forces us to get stronger. Eventually however 90% gets easier and easier as you train more. This is the idea behind progressive loading i suppose.
It sucks training alone. I train in my garage and rarely hit big lifts. I attempt them all day but the atmosphere is different in my garage than say at a national meet. I can’t count the amount of times i have missed a 100kg snatch over the last couple weeks. However, i nailed it at the American Open last weekend. I even got 105 unofficially (press out). Looking at the video, it was easy. What is wrong with me in training?? Well nothing besides the fact that i am barely held accountable. I report to my coaches Greg and Aimee at Catalyst Athletics, but they can’t yell at me before and after lifts and this makes a huge difference.
Weightlifting is hard!
It takes alot of mental strength to get under the bar on the fifth set of squats at 85% of your max for a set of 5. The desire not to fail is crucial. This transfers well into the the mental strength needed for Crossfit.
PR’s are fun, but rare.
As a novice lifter i experienced many more PR’s than a seasoned lifter. I went from a 90 kg snatch and 110 kg clean and jerk to a 105 kg snatch and 130 kg clean and jerk. All my squats and presses have gone up as well. I attribute this to being new and don’t expect as much gains in the future. This is an understanding anyone who has been in sport for a while can understand. Once you get to a certain level, progress is hard and you have to fight tooth and nail to get it and keep it. If you don’t get fired up and want to tell everyone that you PR’d in the snatch by 2 kilos then you might not be in the right field. I watched my girlfriend snatch 55kg a week ago and the smile she had afterwards was amazing! I was like a proud father and wanted to tell everyone. So keep in mind the joy goes beyond just the athlete. One final note here. PR’s are records for a reason. They aren’t meant to be beat everytime you attempt them. its ok not to hit a record everytime. In fact i would say it is a good thing if you miss PR’s everytime you train. To me this means your PR is actually pretty legit and you have to work like hell to beat it.
Where do i go from here?
I feel like i still have tons of potential as a weightlifter. i also have a strange desire to compete in teh CF games in 2010. I think, despite others views, that i can do both and be competitive in both. This will take a strong focus on quality training and will need to be reviewed by someone other than myself. I am too easy on myself. Obviously i won’t make the huge gains in either sport but that i part of the compromise i am willing to make. So now i have to figure out what this hybrid program looks like and talk with my coaches about how to make it work.
Thank you all for your support and i will do my best to make you proud as an athlete!!
Dutch

19 Responses to Observations on Weightlifting
skipp
January 13th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Dutch,
I think you can compete well in both with a very well thought out program that has multiple undulations with a stronger focus to one or the other throughout the training year. Give it your best and prove em wrong!
Daren (twc)
January 13th, 2010 at 11:18 am
glad you are getting back into crossfit as an “athlete” again although you never really left. also glad my 2k row is currently faster than yours. i feel that won’t last long but i’ll enjoy it for now. Thanks for all the help in lifting
Elia
January 13th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Good bull, and congrats UNCLE Dutch!
Ben
January 13th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Dutch,
If CF wants to test “elite fitness” at the 2010 Games, it “should” look something like this:
Snatch 1RM
Clean & Jerk 1RM
Sprint 800 meters
Row 2K
Push-ups max reps
If you think about the type of athlete needed to do well in all of these areas, I’m pretty sure they would be the most fit individual…Lifter, sprinter, gymnast.
John P.
January 13th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Congrats on the PRs Dutch!
From your past posts since the 2009 games I would have guessed you were not planning on competing in the CF 2010 games. Glad to see that your personal achievement in another (although related) field inspired you to do so.
If you can maintain or improve your Snatch and Clean & Jerk and one of those comes up at the games, you are going to surprise the hell out of some of the bigger competitors.
Good luck!
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Miguel Garza
January 13th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
I wish you the best in your training. Keep having fun man. That’s the best thing about your training, you keep it fun. AND…since my sister mentioned what your reply email was…i’ll have to say “ur going to train for Oly lifting and The CrossFit Games….THATS CUTE!”…just messin
Michael
January 14th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Hey Dutch the only thing I can tell you is that, and this applies strictly to me at this point, I switched to O-lifts the exact same time as you except I didnt completely cut out METCON I did O-lifts 4 days a week and O-lift plus METCON 2 days a week. Recovering from O-lifting is one of the hardest things I have had to do. When it was strictly O-lifts for just a couple of months it was hard and then when I added in the METCONS on the last 2 days I thought it might not have been possible. I guess the short version is yes its do able but recovery is a SOB.
dutch
January 14th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Ben,
As much as i want to believe that, i think you are missing a couple modalities and domains. Unfortunately the ability to a massive amount of pushups does not make you a gymnast.
Miguel….
Michael,
Totally agree with that. Its not an easy transition but worth it!
Check out Greg’s words on switching over http://www.pendlay.com
POS
January 14th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Dutch, I know what you mean about training solo. So hard to put up the heavier weights and push through sets without a peer eye and occasional yelling at. I got to the games last year doing all of my WODs solo and know that had there been a coach or training partner around that mentally it would have been a little more motivating.
You will be able to incorporate both oly and xfit into your training, and I know you will draw upon some great resoursces to figure it all out.
Maybe I will see you out in SD one day
dutch
January 14th, 2010 at 7:36 am
I look forward to it POS!
Pat M
January 14th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Stay with weightlifting. Get really good at it, in fact try and make the Olympics. Go for being world class in a sport competed on the world’s stage, not in some one’s backyard. In fact, get so good at it…CFHQ will be proud to take credit for your success.
dutch
January 14th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Pat,
Thank you for that. I laughed out loud.
I may try that, i’m still young enough. I can do Crossfit when i get old.
Pat M
January 14th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Dutch,
I just came from a lifting session with Mike Gattone and Roger Neilson. They remember you well from the American Open. Think about it, decide and then go for it. Dutch you hit 230 after what… focusing for 7months? Don’t settle for being mediocre at a lot of things, be great at one thing. Do it!
Pat M
kris kepler
January 15th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Dutch,
compete…. “mediocre at a lot of things”, that’s not you, that might be other “crossfitters”. See you iat GSX in a few months.. ; )
you will be great at OLY lifts, competiting for the games won’t hinder that, just my opinion.
Ed CF North Fulton
January 17th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Wish you luck. I do better on the traditional lifts when I am by myself. But when I do the Oly lifts (I am just starting), I need my fellow CF’s there.
Peter Haas
January 21st, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Dutch,
If you qualified for the Am Open after only 7 months, then you definitely still have a lot of potential. I suppose I’m biased since I switched from CF to Oly only, but I’d urge you to put your time in as a weight lifter.
I was able to hit BW on a snatch relatively quickly (6 months) then muddled around for another 8. Recently I got with a coach and started training around other strong guys. I’ve gone from 100 to 110 in the snatch and from 115 to 130 in the clean in 7 weeks. In my opinion, the biggest challenge has been a mental one. The programming my coach has set up is something I never would have done for myself. Each day is intimidating to me. I know every workout is going to be hard, I just have to get through it.
I’d urge you to do the same. Get w/ Greg and get him to make an ambitious template for you. Something where you have doubt every single time you step on the platform. Make yourself attack the weights and rise to the occasion. If you do that every workout, in 6 months you’ll hit numbers that you thought were previously unattainable.
Sorry if this sounds cheesy. I get pretty fired up about this stuff.
Dutch
January 21st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Thanks Peter,
I am doing something along those lines.
John Clark
April 26th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
I do some weightlifting at least twice a week, weightlifting is a very good exercise and it keeps the shape of my chest and shoulder muscles in very good form.~~~