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22 Jul 2009Update
The Olympic lifting Clinic will be held at Crossfit 801 in Salt Lake.
Thursday, July 23rd from 1pm -4pm
Cost: $50
I have gotten a couple questions about using 1RM’s and percentages. I will try to clear up some stuff without confusing anyone. You have to go into this with an open mind. There are many different viewpoints on this topic so don’t take this personal.
There is certainly a traditional model and it shouldn’t be too hard to search out on google. It will basically rank everything off a 1 rep max. There is a difference in women. Usually you will find them with higher capacity at higher percentages while having a lower than expected 1 rm. For example they may be able to do 5 reps at 95% but then add 5 lbs and they can’t get a single rep. Women…
So how often do we need to asses the 1RM? I would say that it depends on your level. Beginners will probably get significant gains and need to recheck every 6 weeks. As the skill level gets better the numbers will progress quicker especially in the olympic lifts. For More advanced athletes 12 weeks is usually a good time period. I would not go for a 1RM everyday you lift. This will fry your neurological system and beat you down really quickly.
I am not a big fan of high rep high load olympic weightlifting. I usually won’t go over 3 reps with anything higher than 80%. I find form degrades very quickly and limits your progress. As for the squat, dead, press and variations i like both higher reps schemes and lower reps. I would limit the number of exercises you do and expand your exposure to different rep schemes. We are, after all, Crossfitters and need to be able to do both high rep and low rep. How easy would fran be if you could do 21 thrusters at 155lbs?
A good example of this is the 20 rep squat program. You will basically work towards increasing your 20 rep max in the squat with a linear progression over 4-6 weeks. This is a brutal program but you can’t argue the effectiveness. At the same time i would add in some 10×2 clean and jerks or snatches on off days.
Take one and at the max two movements per day especially if you are gonna do some type of conditioning afterward. I would tinker in the different energy pathways. For example the clean and jerk and snatch should be short explosive bursts of work while your squats should be a little higher rep to push you to the next energy pathway.
My opinion, especially if you are a crossfitter, is to push the limits. We don’t want absolute strength so playing with higher reps at relatively high loads would be ideal. As a crossfitter you need both top end strength and high capacity at high reps.

9 Responses to 1RM’s and percentages
Mark Riebel
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
Dutch,
Thought I’d throw a few things your way on the current topic, and considering my current fixation on PL training, it is a bit biased in that fashion.
As far as percentages of 1RM go, a variation on the link you posted is a table by A. S. Prilepin that recommends percentages and volume. I’ve found it pretty useful in my own experience and with clients. Check it out here (along with someone’s own explanation):
http://www.strengthmill.net/forum/archive/index.php?t-490.html
And for testing 1RM’s, I agree that they can really smoke your CNS when you do them frequently, but a good way to compensate for that is to just max out on different exercises. By changing stance, bar placement, grip, etc. you can really put out some maximum efforts on a regular basis without excessive fatigue. I think the mental challenge of attempting a 1RM can be just as big as the physical, but doing regular maximum efforts has helped me get a lot more comfortable with heavy weights.
Dutch
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Mark,
Thanks for your input. I have been reading alot of the WB stuff as well and getting ready to dive head first into it thanks to your example. I’m tired of being weak!
I agree academically on the max effort stuff as i have not yet experienced it yet. Louie Simmons seems to think it works so by default i’m in too.
Thanks again!
dave
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hey Dutch,
Are you also going to do the whole dynamic day and reps to failure days with the max effort days? Or maybe metcon-type workouts can be tailored to fill those aspects of the training? I don’t really know…
dutch
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I’m gonna take an Olympic bias but I’m not totally sure how I am structuring it yet.
Don’t worry dave you will be the first to know.
dave
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
ha! good to hear.
Eric O
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Louie has an article out there about what he would do if he was training Olympic Lifters. His thoughts are pretty interesting:
http://www.mikesgym.org/articles/index.php?show=article§ionID=3&articleID=57&searchTerms=louie
I did the Traditional Westside template a fews years back and I have to say that it got me the Strongest that I have ever been.
Michele Vieux
July 27th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Yea to 20-rep squat sets! I used this for my main strength programming for the 3 months that I couldn’t deadlift due to a strain. I saw redicilious gains over the 6-week period. My 5-rep max turned into my 20-rep max in no time and it kept me in the game both physically and mentally. Now if I could just snatch Sage…
Shae
July 29th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
You can figure out about what your 1 rep max is with out the stress of doing max effort. There are tons of websites that have the calculations for you. I use this one..
http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/orm.htm
Michele Vieux
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Sweet! According to the 1RM calculator, my back squat should be at 435lbs!! Whoot!